Posts by Tyrone van leyen

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Do You Feel Like You Were "Screwed Over" By A Judicial Committee?

by minimus in

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.....or do you feel as though you "deserved" to be reproved or disfellowshipped?

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Tyrone van leyen

The elders are an unbeleivable force of evil. Before they ever got in my face when I was an upright Jw and faultless, they cut me out of chess tournaments, they cut me out of the Dungeons and dragons club. They ruined all my activities and freindships. I'm not finished!. They banned me from movies, concerts, effected the music I listened to. Hell they even tried to council me on masturbation. There was no drinking no celebrating no nothing. Did I mention I was allowed to go dooor to door. I saw my whole life passing before my very eyes and this made the elders feel really good about themselves. I was a naturally gifted orator and had charisma and what they were doing with me was very painful indeed.

I was so distraught at not having freinds I would look in the mirror and ask myself what was wrong with me and why I didn't fit in. I lived by every rule that was ever invented by theses geriatric two time losers. I don't know if anyone ever took it as seriously as I.

One night, I was so lonely I decided to sneak a girl out of her window and go for donuts. I brought her right back and never touched her. I just wanted to talk. The first move of the elders was to haul me before a comittee and rake me over the coals. They never said a word to her of course. I'm the bad guy, didn't you know. This girl over the years has been involved in every form of debauchery known to man and nothing ever happened to her. Thats cuz she was related to the one of the elders as a neice. She confesssed that she lied threough her teeth over the years. I know of others sisters too, who got away with murder simply by lieing. To my utter amazement I later found out that the elder she is related to married a woman who had sex with a guy while out on feild service before they were married. This guy had sex with a lot of sisters this way. A kid was even born out of wedlock from this ass wipe. That is how I know it was a conspiracy against me and that the elders truly look after their own.

The elders control every nuance of relationships and direct the course of peoples lives to the point of picking and choosing who they want in their sick little family. I made a perfect scapegoat for those shitheads. Here's the guy you want! Look how Satan can attack those who don't listen and follow our commands. The worst Satanic attack I ever received was from those losers, but I had a family that backed them 450%. They thought brown nosing was a good way to move ahead. It was a great move for everyone really, cuz it took me, the competition, right out of the picture. They wern't gonna have a little shit like me make them look lame on stage or in the dating scence. They all must of gotten a good boner the day they decided to end my life. I, of course ended up with a prostitute as I had no freinds, raging hormones, no answers no support. I always have to add when I talk about this that That should never have happened but only in witness world on the edge of the twilight zone. If you think that sounds strange, you're exactly right. Never ever should that have happened if things were allowed to progress in a natural way. I was put in a situation of unbearable restrictions my entire life and then when I snapped they hammered me to the other side of hell, with no mercy whatsoever. These sorry little men even hauled my brother before a comitee on three different occasions for his dancing. How silly, How petty, How sad. There little witch hunts give them an erection just as the confessions of horny sisters do. Without these wonderful power plays that the society has organized for them to feel superior to others, there little peckers would shrivel up.

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Sister Pioneer and Her 10 Year Secret of Porneia

by bluesapphire in

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when i was studying, the sister who studied with me was a pioneer and as "righteous-overmuch" as they come!

i wasn't even baptized and she was already pressuring me to pioneer since i didn't work.

nevermind that i had three little girls all under 4!!!.

Tyrone van leyen

I'd rat that bitch out so fast, her eyeballs would twirl. She really thinks she's something else, doesn't she. Above the laws she holds everyone else to. I have stood in the glare of fingerpointers, liers, and hippocrates and she sounds like the ultimate disgusting person. Its not in my nature to be a tattle tale. In this case, as in all witness cases I will make exception. These people go out of there way to ruin lives and sit in judgement of others. They need to know what that feels like. I do not agree that there own Karma will get them in the end. I know of plenty who have never paid for anything and never will. Thats why they do what they do. They have mastered cognitive dissonance and double lives. They are adept at lieing and concealing secrets. Bust these suckers wide open every chance you get! The rules don't change for the likes of that kind of scum. The more they get hammered or at least exposed the more the watchtower suffers. Perhaps on a much larger scale the governing body itself needs to know that it is not infalible. If they can impose hard ass rules on people and punish them when they fall short, then the punishment should be worse for those who are hipocrates. It is only us that can show them the state of there own horrendous inequities.

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IT IS TIME FOR A___CONFESSION!

by Terry in

there is an old-fashioned definition of the word "confession" which is the public expression of one's deepest faith and belief.. take a deep breath and give a one or two paragraph summary of your deepest belief.. i'll go first.. from the time i was a small child i had a deep and abiding reverence for god as a father.

(my own father i never even met until i searched and found him when i was 25 years old.

) my grandmother had been raised in a catholic convent.

Tyrone van leyen

I was born into the religion. I was never given a choice or even had time to come up with the concept. I can honestly say if I wasn't born into it, I don't think I would ever had sought out answers to life life from this angle.

I have mentioned before that when I was 6 years old I got a bad haircut and when I complained about it, my mother sent me to my room. I was so distraught at the perceived injustice that I decided I would pray to Jehovah to make matters right. I prayed, I sat, I waited. Nothing happened. My next logical step was to prey to Satan. I prayed, I sat I waited. Again nothing! I quickly concluded that both were bullshit.

I can remember sitting in my mothers lap with the great teacher book at about the same age asking, her "why is it so important to study a book about things that happened 3000 years ago?". I can remember asking my dad at a very young age " What makes you think there's a god when you can't see him and he won't talk to you? His answer was " Just look around you". I was never convinced by his reply.

I asked my mother one time also when I was very young and tired of studying the publications when we would be finshed this big fat green book. It was the bible, they always brought it with them to there studies, so I thought it would be a great day when we finally finished with it, as it seemed the most boring one of the lot. To my ultimate horror, she said "NEVER"

I have always tried to rule my life with logic and beleived in what I see and feel. Despite that Many years later I actually became a true beleiver and would defend it wherever the oportunity presented itself. Especially in school. It would have been very difficult to have the cohonies at such a young age to defy my parents anyways. They were unflexible and wouldn't listen to a word I ever said anyways.

I guess I became a beleiver because of the 1914 prophecy. To me they were only ones that got the scriptures right. I was teaching it to my classmates in gr. 7. I just couldn't beleive how incredible it seemed and it gave more weight to everything else they taught. I was even preaching in my auto mechanics class. I gave great talks, but I was involved in public speaking way before the theocratic ministry school. Since gr. 1 actually.

The only thing I could never bring myself to do, was get baptised. I never had a girlfreind of any kind all this time. Just a head full of witness crap. Never celebrated anything either and still havn't to this day.

When I finally got hammered for immorality,due to there unbeleivably stifling sanctions I was still a witness in my mind. There was no escape from it. Thoses were all the people I knew and only way of thinking I knew. This resulted in a path of self destruction and discovery.

I am still logical and have survived the self destruction period, but I am more skeptical yet more peaceful now than ever before. In a funny way, it wasn't logic that saved me from this cult and my tight grip family but my stubborness and natural urges. Thats one thing about the witness' ,every thing they do and feel is unatural. If you don't do things that are natural you are not listeneing to your inner pilot. The inner pilot is that voice you should be listening to. After a while I think it gets shut off in some people. To tell you the truth I didn't even think I had one. I beleive in good and humanity. What more do you want. I deal with what I know and, not what I don't know and don't feel such as God. I don't want to close my mind to the possibilty either, so long as the evidence presents itself in a scientific way.

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meet the genius that is Karl pilkington

by ninja in

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if you like ricky gervais (the office ..uk version)....meet his really weird mate karl....and see what you make of his views on varied subjects...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqblzixu3yg...cut and paste or someone turn it blue...thanks

Tyrone van leyen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBlZIXu3Yg

Here is the link for your thread Ninja

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What is the solution?

by purplesofa in

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most of us seem to be concerned about world problems, from iraq, oil, darfur, katrina victims, mental illness, global warming, starvation, crooked politicians, child abuse, healthcare, racism, prejudice etc etc etc.. we know there are just really people out there that don't care or pay attention to the planet or each other.

daily things get worse.

if they are getting better the media fills us with negative negative negative all day long.. i think some here believe things will always be the way they are, its human nature.

Tyrone van leyen

I say assemble the greatest minds on the planet to run all economic and political affairs. I also say that there is no room for evil in a global world. It must be eliminated and dealt with harshly and swiftly. A lot of our collective intelligence and money is being diverted by wars. This must stop. It must be redirected to the benefit of mankind into studying genetics and technology to further improve our world. We have obviously been given the intelligence to solve our own problems but must first overcome the evil. Education should be mandatory and available to all. If we take on the attitude that God will look after everything when we have the ability in our own hands we are only dreaming. This is what the witnesses do. I'm hoping that at some point if we don't destroy ourselves completly that logic and good will surpass and triumph over evil. The mind must be further studied in this regard for those that are just born as what one might call a bad seed. Further, anything from a religion that condones any unfair or evil practice must be banned without banning the religion. Once the basic necessities are overcome and phychological needs are met in a healthy way we are on the road to Utopia.

If we don't suceed regardless, then it wasn't ever meant to be. Our self destruct button was just too hard wired into the species. No one ever said there has to be a happy ending, or a God or a Utopia. The world has always been a cruel place.

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JW's to those who died in 'Jonestown'

by KW13 in

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it frightens me to think there is even the slightest link.

i have doubts the society would do such a huge thing as passing the poisoned fruit juice but in many other ways they have followers ready to kill themselves for the 'cause'.. no blood etc.

then you get the explempary dubs who were killed by nazi's for their faith.

Tyrone van leyen

I think if I were in a situation that called for me to deny God to save children, I would do it. I think God is a big boy who can take a bit of name calling for the sake of children. You can always repent and ask for forgiveness afterwards. I'm sure God understands what the word duress means especiallly since he was under the same circumstances with his son. Besides how could you get the preaching work done if people were getting killed like that? That would be most arrogant and self centered of God to expect such a sick offering of loyalty. All this of course if you beleive the scriptures. If God thinks killing children is ok to vindicate his name I don't want anything to with him anyways. His son supposedly was given as a sacrifice but the whole idea of redemption for people who had nothing at all to do with the original sin is prepostrous to begin with.

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Any of you guys into cooking?

by zagor in

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i have to admit, for many years i hated it.

before i got married i used to do lots of my own cooking and enjoy artistry of it.

heck, i'm not saying i was an expert at it but the important thing was i loved it.. but then things hit the fan and for years after, particularly because being on my own now, i would find any and every excuse in the cookbook not to do it lol.

Tyrone van leyen

I came up with a nice recipe one night, simple but delicious. Take baked chicken. Break it up once it's cooked. Then throw it into a frying pan with a bit o currie and some olive oil. Then get some pistachios. Unshell them and throw them in the mix. once it's nicely melded take a leaf of romaine lettuce and wrap the mix in the leaf. Now your ready to dip it in honey dijon mayo. It's really tasty and colourful.

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ANYTHING EXCITING EVER HAPPEN AT YOUR KINGDOM HALL?

by anewme in

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did anything exciting or alarming ever happen at your hall?

i remember only funny incidents, like one brother getting up there with his zipper down.

(i knew alot of brothers after that felt no shame to actually check down there before going up on the podium!

Tyrone van leyen

Ever wonder if the f word was ever used on the podium during a talk. Well it happened in my kingdum hall with my cousin's talk. It was Only his third or fourth talk ever and he hated every minute of it. His talk wasn't going well and he screwed up in his notes and said "FUCK" right into the microphone. Amazingly not a single word was ever said to him about it, but I can tell you flatly, the congregation was stunned.

There was one memorial where a chap named Vlad was crying out and moaning, like he had received holy spirit and was annointed. He had to be removed.

During the watchtower, some nutbar was asked a question on what we can do to improve our lot in life and he answered the question as per watchtower form and then at the end of his comment stated that additionallly it would be helpful to tie magnets around our heads and sleep facing North. He also said that if anyone wanted to see him afterwards about buying a magnet he was available. I know of two people who actually bought one.

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Does The Memorial Mean ANYTHING To You???

by minimus in

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just wondering.

Tyrone van leyen

I've messed over 20 memorials now, and I was just invited today by my mother. I told her I will not contribute to watchtower statisics. They ruin every single hoiliday of the year and taint the only one they invite you to by bashing you the rest of the year. They can kiss my ass! It means nothing. They are lost and have nullified the lords commands by their traditions.

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Wow, Scientists develop way to change one blood group to another

by needproof in

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6517137.stm .

scientists have developed a way of converting one blood group into another.

the technique potentially enables blood from groups a, b and ab to be converted into group o, which can be safely transplanted into any patient.

Tyrone van leyen

Thanks for that, Needproof that's startling news. If it becomes mainstream it ought to throw a wrench into the witness veiw of blood and all the fallacies that go with their thinking. It wouldn't suprise me if the Gb goes along with this to take legal heat off them. They'll never thank science though. They'll thank Jehovah.